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ayascythe ([personal profile] ayascythe) wrote2011-03-06 10:02 pm

Fandom squee and pimping

Because this fandom is still so small and needs more love, even though it is the slashiest thing I have come across since, I don't know, Brokeback Moutain?

Four reasons to love The Eagle of the Ninth (includes spoilers and quotes)

1. It's (b)romantic. (Book!verse)

"I am the Centurion's hound, to lie at the Centurion's feet."
"I have not served the Centurion because I was his slave"

Marcus and Esca are totes in love with each other at first sight. It's described as this ~very special moment~ when all they can see is each other and Marcus needs to save this slave's life, no matter what. Marcus buys Esca as a slave and Esca doesn't run away on the way to the Aquila mansion because he "hopes in his heart that it would be Marcus who has bought him". Oh. Okay.
Their relationship is much more harmonic in the book, based on respect and friendship and they set out for the search of the Eagle as equals. Marcus gives Esca his freedom and Esca chooses to stay with him. They are very domestic and they have a pet wolf together that Esca brought home from a hunt for Marcus. It's bromantic and lovey-dovey and wonderful. There is one female love interest who seemed too young to me and Marcus treated her more like a little sister. I like Cottia, but I was mildly confused about her purpose. Also, he kept forgetting about her all the time. In the end, Marcus runs off with Esca and Cottia to build up a farm and live happily ever after.


2. It's full of UST and powerplay. (Movie!verse)

"You're my slave. Do as I did for you, and you'll survive."
"I thought I had lost you."
"You are free, my friend."

Marcus and Esca are totes in love with each other at first sight. It's just as special and slo-mo-ish as in the book, when they first look at each other. Marcus seems to be genuinely confused about his own actions, though. And then his uncle buys Esca for him as a body slave. Marcus is like "I don't need one", while Esca is like "I don't want to be here either and I haaaate you, but I'm in your debt so take my damn services."
Their relationship is very (in)tense from day one and there seems to simmer so much underneath everything they do and it's so much UST, I cannot even. *fans self* They pass the Hadrian's Wall still as master and slave, but the power dynamics shift from that moment on. Because movie!Marcus (unlike book!Marcus) doesn't know the language and has to depend on Esca. AND THEN THERE'S THIS WONDERFUL SHIFT IN POWER DYNAMICS AND MARCUS IS ESCA'S SLAVE. I don't see why anyone would need more reasons to start having fun in this fandom. Marcus is equally pissed about the situation as he is like a kicked, confused puppy (because quote, "I thought I had lost you", unquote). While Esca pretends to be indifferent but really cannot stand to see Marcus suffer. (Me however, I can. I might have mentioned it, but Channing Tatum looks good at it.) Or maybe he gets secretly a kick out of it, who knows?! The possibilities for fic are limitless.
They go from hate to dependance to "betrayal" to complete trust and love friendship. Finally, after they run off with the Eagle, there is this scene where Marcus can't go on because of his wounded leg. He is all "go and take the Eagle, Esca", but Esca bargains for his freedom. And suddenly, this absolutely cheesy, epic, romantic music starts to play and Marcus gives Esca his freedom, Esca cups Marcus' head in his hands and says "I'll come back".


3. Even the actors are in love (RPS).

For those who can't get into sexy Romans and Brits, there is still the possibility of Real Person Slash. Channing and Jamie basically fangirl each other and especially Channing is all: "Yeah, he's sexy."

Need proof?

DA: In the film your character got to be really good friends with Esca (Jamie Bell). Do you still keep in contact with him?
CT: Yeah, a lot. You see each other so intensely for a certain amount of time, like we were together for over three months, you know, every day, every single day. And then you just leave. It’s sort of like you go through withdrawals you know, you’re kinda like, ‘I wonder what Jamie’s doing?’ You just want to call him and hang out. But you just get busy. It’s hard to keep in touch with people, but he will always be one of my dearest friends. I’m actually gonna see him soon so I’m excited. It’s kinda like seeing an old girlfriend or something, you’re just like, ‘I love you, man.’
>>sauce

TeenHollywood: Were you disappointed that there wasn’t a romantic element to the movie because that’s kind of what you’re known for?
Channing Tatum in "The Eagle." | Focus FeaturesChanning: You didn’t see it with me and Jamie? That was the tension between us. It was all underneath the skin. We were wearing skirts. [laughs] But, no. That’s what makes the movie kind of different. It doesn’t try to succumb to the Bravehearts and the Gladiators which are such epics and we weren’t trying to hit that golden ring. We were trying to do something different, more intimate, maybe a little more realistic. I think [a romance] would have been a little distracting and take away from the real tension. It would have dropped it for a second. This way, it stays simmering the whole time with Jamie and I.
>>sauce

Jamie: "You mean, like Brokeback Eagle? Oh yeah, the bromance is all over this movie."
Channing: "We really got along very, very well."
>>YouTube vid

Q. The odd thing about “The Eagle’’ is the absence of a romantic interest. There are no girls.
A. Yeah, the whole structure of the film is strange. It’s not typical as far as that goes. There was a relationship with one of the northern tribeswomen, but it got cut because it was confusing.
Q. I thought maybe you and [costar] Jamie Bell were going to get together.
A. He’s a sexy man. It could have happened.
>>sauce

There’s been a lot of buzz about the master-slave relationship going on there. Seems a little BDSM.
I think Jamie had a lot of fun having me as a slave. I don’t think I took advantage of it like I should have when he was my slave. But Jamie, yeah — he abused me. So maybe there was some frustration coming out a little bit here and there.
[...]
How about in real life?
Jamie and I have a bromance. We’ve been having sex for a few years now.

How’s that going?
Going fantastic.

He’s a lot smaller than you. He’s really small.
He’s a goer though.

What’s a goer?
I don’t know. I just made it up.
>>sauce

OH CHANNING TATUM. SO SUAVE. Also, I want to see them dance together, HOW FUCKING SEXY WOULD THAT BE:

TeenHollywood: You guys are great dancers but you didn’t dance in the film. How about off set?
Channing: Well, Jamie would refuse to dance for a while and then he’d bust something out. He’s kind of shy about it but we did a caleigh which is a more aggressive, violent Ring Around the Rosy. But it’s so much fun. Everyone in the entire [Scottish] village comes to this hall and everyone sings and brings their instruments and everyone gets up and dances. It’s so much fun.


4. Mr. Handsome and Mr. Pretty. (aka: eyecandy)


He does look splendid in that uniform.



UNNFFF.









Nuff said. :D

[identity profile] angualupin.livejournal.com 2011-03-06 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you referring to the Rosemary Sutcliff young adult novel?

There's a movie of that???????????? It was one of my favourite books growing up! (All of Rosemary Sutcliff's novels were.)
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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-03-06 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
YES, that novel! The movie is out since last Thursday. I have read the book just last week and really enjoyed it. The movie is quite different, though, (annd a little lame and mediocre) and has some major changes in plot and dynamics (also see: trailer (http://ayascythe.livejournal.com/245373.html#cutid1)).

[identity profile] angualupin.livejournal.com 2011-03-06 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
*watches trailer* Well, they got the Picts all wrong, but... maybe the rest will be ok? I'm obviously still going to watch it, even if the historical inaccuracy is going to set my teeth on edge. (One of the best things about Sutcliff's novels is how accurate they are, without making them any less interesting or well-written.)

Do you happen to know how well the movie did? If it did well (for a historical movie), maybe one day they will make a movie of The Shining Company. ...Although given what movies generally do to books, especially historical books, maybe I shouldn't wish for that.
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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-03-07 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, I can't tell you if the rest was okay/correct. I generally assume the worst, but I'm mostly oblivious to historical accuracy (or lack thereof), unless history-savvy clear that up for me. ;)

I don't have any statistics, but I fear it didn't do that well - at least here in Germany. There was hardly any marketing and it got shitty screentimes even in the first week, so I doubt it was very successful. :/
ninamalfoy: naked Carsten and Lenny from GZSZ in each other's space, staring at each other intensely (cenny:eyefuck)

[personal profile] ninamalfoy 2011-03-06 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Tatum is more 'meh' where I'm concerned (looks too much like a steroid-pumped dumb athlete to me, alas), but OMG what is Jamie wearing in that scene with the shield? Just a little tug and much would be... revealed. *stares*

But, yeah, I'll be watching that movie solely for Jamie. And the slashiness. Yeah. Don't forget that review either that ripped the movie a new one: Again, if Marcus and Esca started to fall for each other — a fiery hate turns into a passionate love — the motivations of the film would have made total sense and would have been a much braver and more intelligent movie. (sauce)

OMGYESSSSS. Well, then fanfiction can pick up the slack! ;-)
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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-03-06 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I don't know, Channing does look a little ... limited on some pics, but when he doesn't he's quite interesting to me. Especially his interviews make him sound like a really nice guy.

Heee, yes, that picture is glorious. As is the review - I have seen it in frogspace's journal and nearly died laughing while reading it. :D And it really is that slashy as it sounds!

[identity profile] padfootie.livejournal.com 2011-03-07 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I finished the book yesterday and then watched the trailers and teasers for the movie on youtube and was really surprised by how different book and movie seem to be. I really, really want to see that movie now, even though I would have preferred for them to have a purely loving and trusting relationship as they had in the book. ;)
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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-03-07 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Book and movie really are different - but they both work in their own way and are very enjoyable. Personally, I love the twist the movie did, but I'll gladly take both verses to play with. They do end up as a happy couple at the end of the movie (at least in my eyes ;)), so there's still that loving and trusting aspect. :)
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[identity profile] louphoenix.livejournal.com 2011-03-07 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Sehr schönes Intro!
Jetzt hab ich was zu dem ich linken kann ;)

Meep, ich muss den Film unbedingt sehen. Am besten jetzt gleich.

Irgendwie hab ich gestern vor lauter Chat das Post hier gar nicht gesehen und heute den Link dazu in frogspace lj gesehen. War irgendwie überaschend, so: Moment, den Namen kenn ich doch!)

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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-03-08 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
*kicher* Den Film solltest du dir unbedingt noch antun, wahrscheinlich auch bald. Ich hab so das Gefühl, dass der nicht sonderlich erfolgreich sein wird ... Kann ich gar nicht verstehen. ;)

[identity profile] mainecoon76.livejournal.com 2011-03-09 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, schön, es gibt noch andere deutsche Sutcliff-Fans! Hallo! :-)

Und ja, "nicht sonderlich erfolgreich" ist gut. In unserem Kino - und das ist nicht gerade klein - läuft er nicht mal jeden Tag, und wenn, dann nur einmal spät abends (was kein Babysitter mitmacht) oder am späten Nachmittag (hallo, manche Leute müssen arbeiten!). Wie soll denn ein Film so erfolgreich sein?

Ich warte seit ungefähr zwanzig Jahren darauf, dass dieses Buch verfilmt wird, und jetzt kann ich mir nicht mal in der ersten Woche (!) mit der Kinobegleitung meiner Wahl einen gemütlichen Abend machen. Bin gerade ziemlich frustriert.
*seufz*
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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-03-12 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Hallo! :) Ja, bei uns lief der auch zu unglaublich dämlichen Spielzeiten. Würde mich wundern, wenn er länger als bis zur zweiten Woche gezeigt wird ... :/

Ich muss ja gestehen, dass ich erst durch den Film-Trailer auf die Bücher aufmerksam geworden bin, aber dann auch sehr begeistert Den Adler gelesen habe und jetzt mitten im Silbernen Zweig stecke. Tolle Bücher, mittelmäßiger Film, aber der Slash macht einiges Wett. :D

[identity profile] danielandvala.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
*Mal so frech ist sich in die Unterhaltung einzumischen und hofft, dass es ihr nicht übel genommen wird*

Er lief also nicht nur bei uns in der Gegend zu bescheuerten Zeiten... die ersten Tage lief er nur um 21 Uhr und ab Mitte dieser Woche nur noch um 23 Uhr... mittlerweile gar nicht mehr. Habs zum Glück trotzdem geschafft 2 Mal reinzugehen.

Aber mal ehrlich, ich denke, dass Pech des Films war einfach, dass er zur Faschingszeit angelaufen ist :/ Ich wäre definitiv öfter reingegangen! :)
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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, ich denke nicht, dass das nur an der Faschingszeit lag. Wenn ein Film von vorneherein so wenig Promotion und Aufmerksamkeit bekommt, dann wird er auch meist von den Vorführern und Kritikern abgeschrieben. Nicht zuletzt hab ich auch nicht soooo viele gute Kritiken darüber gelesen; es ist halt kein Film-Juwel, aber ich denke das Marketing ist vor allem Grund dafür, dass Der Adler so untergegangen ist.

[identity profile] danielandvala.livejournal.com 2011-03-14 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
Stimmt, das ist natürlich auch zu beachten. Habe gestern erst mit einer Freundin darüber gesprochen, da sie sagte, dass sie auch reingehen möchte (nach meiner Empfehlung) aber der Film anscheinend in ihrer Gegend auch nicht mehr läuft und sie vorher auch nicht wirklich Werbung gesehen hat... ich denke dennoch, dass er sich auf DVD wahrscheinlich gut verkaufen wird. Er mag zwar kein Film-Juwel sein, aber gelungen ist er doch alle mal :)

[identity profile] macfraser82.livejournal.com 2011-03-14 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow...
Ich würde sagen du hast es genau auf den Kopf getroffen.♥
Ich hab den Film bereits zweimal gesehen aber ihn noch lange nicht über.
Kann ich deinen Eintrag auf mein LJ verlinken?!^^
Ich hab einige Eagle fans auf meiner Flist und ich bin gerne bereit noch paar mehr Leutchens anzufixen *gg*
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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-03-14 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Ich hab es leider nur einmal geschafft, aber wenn erstmal die DVD raus ist, wird das bis zum Erbrechen geguckt ... *grins*
Klar, linke, was das Zeug hält. ;) Das Fandom braucht mehr Liebe!

[identity profile] macfraser82.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
*giggle*
Ach ja ich weiß ganz genau was du meinst. ;D
Wir haben innerhalb ner Woche unsere halbe Mädchenclique aufgemischt und es waren schon einige drin die wir kennen dank unserer Empfehlung *gg*
Das erste was ich gemacht habe als wir aus dem Film kamen war uns ein riesige Wandscroll (Kinobanner) bei ebay zu ersteigern. Das hängt nun bei uns im Flur und seitdem hängen ich und meine Mitbewohnerin nur noch im Flur rum *rofl*

http://pics.livejournal.com/macfraser82/pic/0000wtp6

Schickes icon btw *gg*
Ich wollte mir eigentlich auch endlich mal noch ein paar machen (weil das fandom leider nicht so ergibig ist).
Aber unter der Woche komme ich im Mom leider zu gar nichts *seufzt*
Guter Musikgeschmack übrigens btw. *gg*
Wo hast du den deine icons her?
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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Schicke Wandscroll^^

Zu den Icons: Musst du in den Notizen zum jeweiligen Icon gucken. Ich hab eigentlich immer dazugeschrieben, von wo die sind, außer ich hab sie selbst gemacht.

[identity profile] macfraser82.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Danke <3
Wir haben dafür auch schon neidische Blicke geerntet. ;)
Obwohl ich heute morgen schon kurz davor war meine Katze Feuer unterm Fell zu machen als sie versucht hat es von der Wand zu holen. *gnah*
Nicht mal 2 min weggucken um sich Kaffee zu machen geht... *grummel*

Wie handhabst du das den?
Kann man sich von dir gemachte icons mopsen und dann einfach crediten?
Oder möchtest du nicht das man sich welche mopst?
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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Solange ich nichts Zusätzliches vermerkt habe ... feel free to snag.^^

[identity profile] macfraser82.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Super. Danke.
Dann werde ich das doch mal machen *gg*

[identity profile] night-reveals.livejournal.com 2011-04-20 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I need to watch this so bad. I have it on my computer but I don't have 2 hrs to spare.

Quit your whining, SLAVE...
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[identity profile] ayascythe.livejournal.com 2011-04-21 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, but maybe you could watch it in two halves? 1 hour is easier to spare than 2. ;) It's a really ... worthwhile movie.